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 Post subject: It's KISS time again
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 8:13 am 
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Took the BoBo' out of the box — time to prep it for digitizing — and what is the first "discovery"? The engine is shedding numbers and letters! X( X( The only other times it has been out of the box was for shooting pictures and checking on the condition of the trucks — peeling/blistering paint!
Since in addition to the digi stuff it is also being fitted with Kadees, the trucks needed to be dismounted. First truck, no problem ... second truck a "surprise". Those "rocket scientists" who assembled it tightened that screw with "all their might". Which meant rather than releasing the screw head snapped off; yes, that screw needed to be drilled out! In addition to that they torqued the mounting bolts for the weights enough to crack/break the plastic spacer between weight and frame.

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I guess they hired local "handy people" to save money.

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 Post subject: Re: It's KISS time again
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 2:25 pm 
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So I gotta ask - should I just stay away from ALL Kiss Loks?!
I’ve been building up the guts to purchase a Gem 4/4 later this year, but I’m now starting to wonder if that’s just asking for trouble?


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 Post subject: Re: It's KISS time again
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 5:26 pm 
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Is this one of a new production?
First of those critters I saw was back in 2004, it had to be overhauled at Digitoys — new Hesga powertrucks and and and — to make it perform like it should going up and down steep inclines. Add to that remedial work on the frame; blistering and flaking paint etc. etc.

I should have remembered that prior to getting all hot to trot about the plastic RhB engines. L-) L-)

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 Post subject: Re: It's KISS time again
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 7:43 pm 
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Umm.... :-??

I don't have any KISS loks currently. Of everything they've made, or announced, I've pre-ordered the Tm 2/2 twice. (Only to have it canceled, twice.)

I have, for a few years, slowly fallen more and more for the Gem 4/4s.
(The new version with the rectangular headlamps, naturally ;) )

I've been watching eBay and the US dealers for a while on the super-off chance that a used on would show up. A couple have popped up on eBay.de (or from Germany on US eBay) but always north of €1600. (Minus one used engine from Europe that I missed and finished at €1000 :(( )

I've now found a dealer with some "new old stock" of the plastic bodied units (Grey boxes) at a fair price. I've been debating buying one, but with the on-going saga about Zincpest, I figured I'd ask. I've followed the poor service issues, but admit I don't which engine it is that is affected. Is it all KISS locos that suffer from the zinc rot? Or only certain productions?


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 Post subject: Re: It's KISS time again
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 7:42 pm 
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HJM wrote:
Took the BoBo' out of the box — time to prep it for digitizing — and what is the first "discovery"? The engine is shedding numbers and letters!


HJ, I've had success using 3M Super 77 Adhesive Spray to reattach KISS coats of arms. Should also work for numbers and letters. Give it a try!

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 Post subject: Re: It's KISS time again
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 7:12 am 
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Thanks Dean,

I'll give that a try. But firs t things first, cram the servos in there and let Art to his magic. LEDs, sound, action etc.

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 Post subject: Re: It's KISS time again
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I just wrote them to ask about the frames for the 6/6 to see "when can I expect mine to arrive" and I'll see what they say.
I also have the 4/4 GeM. Nice model, but everytime I take it out of the box, more pieces have fallen off. It's like the glue they use only lasts for a few months. I can imagine running it around an outdoor layout and that the vibration would knock off a bunch of details.
Take a photo before it starts moving.
On the 4/4 there are little pieces on the bend in the catenary which have a lightning bolt on them. Those came off right away. Cool detail but not sure what to use to make them stick.
My other two kiss engines: 4/4i and the big 6/6 have zincrot, and most of the details have fallen off, including the driver's seats inside. The paint on the trucks is almost completely flaked off, and the frames are rotting. This is just an unmitigated disaster. Worthy of a class action lawsuit.
Unconscionable. Just shameless. And they are not doing anything.


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 Post subject: Re: It's KISS time again
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ritter - John N wrote:
On the 4/4 there are little pieces on the bend in the catenary which have a lightning bolt on them. Those came off right away. Cool detail but not sure what to use to make them stick.


I bought a new, old stock Gem 4/4 last fall - those lighting bolt parts weren't there - not in the box, not on the loco... my guess is when the loco was put on display at the hobby shop, they dropped off long ago!


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